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March 27, 2014 at 4:38 pm #1173
I’m experiencing extremely slow search on my website at http://picturebreeze.com . It usually takes more than a minute until any results are returned.
To analyze where the issue is coming from I have disabled the caching plugin (WP Super Cache) but that didn’t really change anything.
Could somebody please try do do a search on my site, maybe for “dog” or “sea” or “horse” and let me know that I’m not the only one experiencing this?
And does anybody have an idea what the cause could be?
Oh, and BTW one more thing that might be worth mentioning. When I do a search, the result page will only list my site’s images and the ones coming from symbiostock.info but none of my network partner sites. Any idea?
March 27, 2014 at 6:01 pm #10622@redneck wrote:
I’m experiencing extremely slow search on my website at http://picturebreeze.com . It usually takes more than a minute until any results are returned.
To analyze where the issue is coming from I have disabled the caching plugin (WP Super Cache) but that didn’t really change anything.
Could somebody please try do do a search on my site, maybe for “dog” or “sea” or “horse” and let me know that I’m not the only one experiencing this?
And does anybody have an idea what the cause could be?
Oh, and BTW one more thing that might be worth mentioning. When I do a search, the result page will only list my site’s images and the ones coming from symbiostock.info but none of my network partner sites. Any idea?
I see the same result, very long search time, lots of images from your site and symbiostock.info but no network partner sites.
Have you tried to disable symbiostock.info and network partner sites to isolate where the problem is coming from?
March 27, 2014 at 6:08 pm #10623Definitely slow. It took at least a minute on my phone and office computer which is a T-1 line it took about 30 to 45 seconds. I searched my site for Horse too and it took about 10 second a or less. You are one of my network partners and your images came up as quick as the others.
March 27, 2014 at 6:25 pm #10624It was slow for me too – but then I tried my own site and
and saw some pretty sluggish responses from all of them. The global search was near instant
http://www.symbiostock.info/index2.php?search_item=dog&search_order=1
Karren’s site was quick
http://www.karensarragaphotography.com/?s=dog&post_type=image
I’m on Bluehost – could it be a server slowdown issue?
March 27, 2014 at 7:13 pm #10625Thank y’all for the feedback. Much appreciated.
@joannsnover wrote:
I’m on Bluehost – could it be a server slowdown issue?
I can’t rule anything out at this time but I have 7 more websites at the same hosting account and they are performing very well.
I’m a little lost now and I hope the techies here have ideas about what to do.
BTW, I checked the image search on my iPad. Results came slow again but this time WITH images from my network partners.I think I’ll try to disable the Bad Behavior plugin first. If that doesn’t resolve the issue I might have to disable the Symbiostock networking temporarily.
I’ll keep y’all posted.March 27, 2014 at 7:27 pm #10626@joannsnover wrote:
It was slow for me too – but then I tried my own site and
and saw some pretty sluggish responses from all of them. The global search was near instant
http://www.symbiostock.info/index2.php?search_item=dog&search_order=1
Karren’s site was quick
http://www.karensarragaphotography.com/?s=dog&post_type=image
Yeah, I experienced the same. pretty slow on your site and crackerclips.com (just not as slow as on my site) and reasonably fast at Karen’s site. Maybe it has something to do with a common network partner or a common plugin?
March 27, 2014 at 7:48 pm #10627Short update.
Deactivating Bad Behavior did not improve the search performance so I reactivated it after the test.But deactivating the Symbiostock network did the trick. The site is now delivering search results after 5 to 6 seconds. Not great but not too bad either. Please feel free to try for yourself and report your experience here.
So my uneducated guess would be that one or more of my network partners were causing the poor performance. Any other ideas?Next steps would be to reactivate the network partners one at a time and to test the performance in between.
March 27, 2014 at 8:12 pm #10628I’m running in circles.
1. I’ve reactivated SYS networking adding only http://www.karensarragaphotography.com as a networking partner. Simply because her site was mentioned to be fast. Search results came up after about 90s. But I have to say that Karen’s site was NOT on my partner list before so I don’t think her site was causing the initial issues. I’ve removed the site shortly after.
2. I’ve added symbiostock.info as the only site to my partner list. Search results were delivered pretty constantly after about 18s. Still too slow for a good customer shopping experience IMO.
3. I went back to deactivating the Symbiostock networking completely and again I’m seeing search results after 5 to 6s.
Of course I’d like to reactivate the networking features of Symbiostock but I need my site to perform reasonably well.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
March 27, 2014 at 9:24 pm #10629definitely seems to be something in the searching – I don’t have sym.info in my network, but both symbiostock.info and my global search are very fast.
so it looks like it’s something in how sym itself does the multiple searcheshere are some times to search across all sites from my global search — it retrieves 1000 images from various sites. the ‘display’ time measures the end of creating the page – the actual time to finish bringing up the entire page is longer, but usually only about 5-10 sec
what someone needs to do is add some timing events in the searches — first for the initial site, and then for each site called to see if there’s big variation in responses from various hosts
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horse
# records = 1000
Only first 1000 shown.
Elapsed time = 0.1445313 sec for select
Elapsed time = 4.933594 sec for displaysearch from my symsite http://cascoly-images.com takes about 30 sec (i dont have sym…info in my network)
symbiostock.info — 1794 results found in 0.061s
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sea
# records = 1000Elapsed time = 0.09375 sec for select
Elapsed time = 3.34375 sec for displaysearch from my symsite http://cascoly-images.com takes about 20 sec
symbiostock.info — 13745 results found in 0.3201s
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food
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# records = 1000Elapsed time = 0.09375 sec for select
Elapsed time = 0.671875 sec for displaysearch from my symsite http://cascoly-images.com takes about 40 sec to start showing images and another few sec to finish creating the page
symbiostock.info — 21342 results found in 0.5012s
March 27, 2014 at 9:42 pm #10630Thanks for the stats, Steve.
I really think any search display taking more than 10s can potentially harm your site and your business. I certainly wouldn’t enjoy shopping on a site that’s not responsive. Not even to mention that search engines might downgrade your site ranking when they don’t get results in a timely manner.
The question is, what to do? There must be something wrong, don’t y’all think?
March 27, 2014 at 10:50 pm #106311 agree — looks like the problem may be in the way the sym theme or WP does its searches — if the search is purely on keywords, then it should be able to use the keyword table at each site. if it also includes title and/or desc, then the search will take a lot longer since it will have to search all records at each site..
there are differences in times and results for the 3 types of search (batch, bulk and menu) but batch and menu search find same number of images, in very different times (and doesn’t matter which is done first, so caching can’t explain it) the bulk editor seems to have a different way to search — fast, but less accurate. i have the actual keyword counts from my global database.
whatever the regular search is doing, it doesn’t outperform the batch search. so either it’s doing something different, or the network search is adding time
whatever the menu search is doing, it doesn’t do it better than the quicker batch search. if both use the same search then the difference lies with the network
if it’s the second case, then a simple solution would be to use the keyword-only search as the default, and use the more extensive search only if the user clicks on it (and have a note there telling them the more elaborate search will take longer)
india
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batch editor 1070 found 6 sec
search 1070 images found 20 sec+
bulk edit few sec 1000 itemsactual keywords: 1063
food
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batch editor 492 found 8 sec
search 492 images found 40 sec
bulk edit 29 items 6 sec
actual keywords = 500found in bulk edit:
1345, 7036, 13536, 13546 dont have food as keyword
but all have it in titlehorse
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batch editor 208 found 17 sec
search 208 images found 30 sec
bulk edit 148 items 8 sec
actual keywords = 203March 27, 2014 at 10:56 pm #10632What is puzzling is that PictureBreeze and digital bristles (my site) have no network partners in common (you can click on the Network link to see a list from the pages linked below):
http://picturebreeze.com/stock/photos/author/concangmail-com/
http://www.digitalbristles.com/author/joannadmin/Sites in my network that seem responsive
http://jktravelphotos.com/author/jkraft5gmail-com/
http://www.karensarragaphotography.com/author/kls-nospamgmail-com/
http://stockabily.com/author/jeancliclac-dk/Stockabily also links to Cathy’s Life which is no longer a Symbiostock site!
Some that are also slow
http://crackerclips.com/author/admin/
http://thpstockphotos.com/author/infotimhester-com-au/I had hoped to find some sort of common denominator, but I’m drawing a blank. Possibly, if I can’t think of anything better, I’ll just zap network sites one at a time and see what happens?
March 27, 2014 at 11:09 pm #10633I think it’s more in HOW the search is being done than WHO is being searched
March 27, 2014 at 11:10 pm #10634JoAnn, I just did a test run with networking enabled and only your site added.
A search for “flowers” took 99s on my site, compared to 8s with networking disabled.
March 27, 2014 at 11:14 pm #10635@cascoly wrote:
I think it’s more in HOW the search is being done than WHO is being searched
I think that’s right.
I hate to keep the networking disabled for now but the poor search performance doesn’t leave me any choice. Hopefully Leo can offer an opinion or technical advice on the issue. -
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