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@redneck wrote:
I hate to say it but it looks to me like the whole back linking (and the Symbiostock networking idea) has become a lot less powerful or even less meaningful after Google changed its mind about how results get listed.
Incoming traffic on my site has barely anything to do with back links anymore.
I’m not sure what stats you are looking at, but I have taken an extensive look at the web stats for my website and the only thing that has really changed is that Google (text) Searches have taken a dive since mid-September. I don’t get many back links, but they have been relatively steady.
@shazamimages wrote:
@redneck wrote:
I hate to say it but it looks to me like the whole back linking (and the Symbiostock networking idea) has become a lot less powerful or even less meaningful after Google changed its mind about how results get listed.
Incoming traffic on my site has barely anything to do with back links anymore.
I’m not sure what stats you are looking at, but I have taken an extensive look at the web stats for my website and the only thing that has really changed is that Google (text) Searches have taken a dive since mid-September. I don’t get many back links, but they have been relatively steady.
That’s what I’m talking about. Before the Google changes our websites got very well listed after text searches and I do believe that the back linking and networking features of the Symbiostock family were responsible for that success.
Not so much anymore. If I understood Google correctly, they now want to see search matching content. Lots of it. Back linking? Seems to be a lot less important now.
I am getting people visiting my site that come though other sites (can see this using wordfence), I can’t tell about numbers as I had such a catastrophic August and spent September reuploading
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the ‘who connects’ list is updated about once a week; it’s not going to be the same as the google webmaster reports since that will also have additional traffic. the visualize the network graph hasn’t been updated, mostly because it’s a snarled mess! that means we’ve got a lot of interconnections, but it’s not pretty.
we’re all in the dark as to the effects of google’s changes — but at the same time the alexa rankings for sites keep going up. http://cascoly.com/symbio/list.asp?list=66
in addition to the fact of backlinking, which search engines notice, there’s also the effect of people on one site seeing your work
another point to remember is that not all traffic is helpful; it’s only a crude indicator– one of my most popular search keywords is pinnipeds – but my site isn’t going to be much use to someone looking for information — my site just has a lot of sea lion pictures, and a poster; however search for ‘image moose walking’ and 2 of the 4 images on the top line are mine. so it really depends what the searcher needs
so, if google succeeds in directing people where they really want to go, we’ll all benefit
right in that google abandoned meta keywords awhile ago, but google is still walking through all the keywords in the global database. we have to remember that our ‘content’ is IMAGES, so writing long descriptions may be counterproductive if that bring us people who aren’t looking to buy images. much previous google traffic was just that sort of search (resulting in high bounce rates). the problem is, when some enters ‘forest fire’ google can’t really tell if they want information or pictures
@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
If you link to symbiostock.info you will be linked to everyone. They will show your images in searches on their site and vice versa. And most everyone is linked to symbiostock.info already. I have verified the fact that i am linked with everyone with webmaster tools after wondering what the point was for filling out 10 slots if you can connect in one shot. Of course you can fill them out, maybe they provide additional links? I would like to hear the theory on that.
My understanding is that just linking to symbiostock.info creates a direct link to that site alone, providing an SEO boost to symbiostock.info but not the sites for the images it’s displaying. By filling the 9 additional fields you also give a boost to those 9 sites, just as other sites are giving a boost to you if they’ve listed your site.
I could be wrong but I think just displaying the images via the Symbiostock.info search doesn’t give SEO weight to any of the sites other than Symbiostock.info. You’re offering a gateway but not really creating a link by calling up the other sites.
Maybe someone with more SEO knowledge could chime in to say if this is a correct assumption or not.
@klsbear wrote:
@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
If you link to symbiostock.info you will be linked to everyone. They will show your images in searches on their site and vice versa. And most everyone is linked to symbiostock.info already. I have verified the fact that i am linked with everyone with webmaster tools after wondering what the point was for filling out 10 slots if you can connect in one shot. Of course you can fill them out, maybe they provide additional links? I would like to hear the theory on that.
My understanding is that just linking to symbiostock.info creates a direct link to that site alone, providing an SEO boost to symbiostock.info but not the sites for the images it’s displaying. By filling the 9 additional fields you also give a boost to those 9 sites, just as other sites are giving a boost to you if they’ve listed your site.
I could be wrong but I think just displaying the images via the Symbiostock.info search doesn’t give SEO weight to any of the sites other than Symbiostock.info. You’re offering a gateway but not really creating a link by calling up the other sites.
Maybe someone with more SEO knowledge could chime in to say if this is a correct assumption or not.
I am by no mean a SEO expert but my understanding of this is exactly the same.
Backlinking may not work the way it used to but I am sure that it won’t harm anyone!
We have no problems throwing our images on stock agencies between millions of other images and struggle with the competition. Struggling to get our images on the first page.
So why are we so hesitant with backlinking to help each other?
I now have one e-mail confirmed connection from Cristina, http://innerstock.com
Let’s fill those empty slots!@klsbear wrote:
I could be wrong but I think just displaying the images via the Symbiostock.info search doesn’t give SEO weight to any of the sites other than Symbiostock.info. You’re offering a gateway but not really creating a link by calling up the other sites.
I believe that the images that show up via a Symbiostock.info search will also have their SEO increased because the image thumbnails are actually coming from the individual websites.
@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
After you add 10 people to your slots, do a search on your site for something that most people might have, like christmas. It drops 10 (maybe a couple less) scrolling bars of images under your results. That movement will likely distract the buyer from even looking at your images. I have no problem helping others if i cant offer anything, but i am not happy with the way those results are displayed.
I agree and would like to either see (a) two sets of results – one result set from my website and a second result set (under mine) from all other websites or (b) one set of results with my results showing first and then everyone else’s following.
I dont understand this. I have 4 links to my direct network (the network slots). When I search for flag on my site, 3 partners show up, and a fourth one I dont know, never saw before and have not linked in my slots. When I click on this person’s thumbnail, I am taken the image site, and bitdefender is blocking the site. http://ayzekstock.com/ Has their been a hack and is someone adding themselves to the network without being listed in the network slots?
Also having read Marcs sgtory about a hack, I am thinking I am going to disconnect the network for now, because weird things are happening. I agree with Cathy also about SEO and stuff. I dont know if disabling the network is going to hurt my Google ranking, but better safe then sorry.
Before I get a better understanding of this, I am going to disable the network before I end up with permanent damage to my site and my google reputation.
Only yesterday I promoted the network on my site, maybe I need to take that whole marketing page down? Maybe solo is the way forward, I dont know. But concerns need to be addressed asap before things get out of control and Symbiostock gets a bad rep. We also need a private section on this forum ASAP.
Maybe Jens was right after all?
@Semmick Photo wrote:
When I search for flag on my site, 3 partners show up, and a fourth one I dont know, never saw before and have not linked in my slots. When I click on this person’s thumbnail, I am taken the image site, and bitdefender is blocking the site. http://ayzekstock.com/ Has their been a hack and is someone adding themselves to the network without being listed in the network slots?
Ayzekstock looks like a legitimate Symbiostock site. The reason they are showing up in your search is because they have the keyword “flag” as one of their promoted keywords (they have about 237 images with flags in them). You can see someone’s promoted keywords by going to their Symbiocard. You can see their Symbiocard here: http://ayzekstock.com/symbiocard.xml. If you search for “symbiostock_my_promoted_keywords”, you will see their promoted keywords.
I’m not sure why bitdefender is complaining.
@Semmick Photo wrote:
I dont understand this. I have 4 links to my direct network (the network slots). When I search for flag on my site, 3 partners show up, and a fourth one I dont know, never saw before and have not linked in my slots. When I click on this person’s thumbnail, I am taken the image site, and bitdefender is blocking the site. http://ayzekstock.com/ Has their been a hack and is someone adding themselves to the network without being listed in the network slots?
Could it be that he has flag as promoted keyword? That’s how he shows up on your site.
@cathyslife stockphotos wrote:
When i look at webmaster tools, i see everyone in the network as “links to my site”. How is that happening? I am beginning to think that no matter who i link to in my ten slots, i am automatically linked to everyone. Right now, i am linked to sy.info and jsnovers site in two of my slots. Where are links to everyone in the network being made? I am not complaining, i am just trying to figure out how it all works. What is the emphasis on filling the ten slots if we are all linked anyway?
I have the same as you in Google Webmaster as you, see my pasted table on the 1st. page.
I think it has to do with Google finding images via other sites and indexing that at that moment.Those links are only links to certain image pages on my site.
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